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anotherusedpageBloody hell. It's no longer Halloween. It's six in the bloody morning. How did it get to be six in the morning?
Unfortunately, two shots of JD is all it takes to make me forget that you don't go from spirits to lighter stuff. And after that, a pint of cider is the end of sanity.... I have amusingly little memory of the remainder of the evening. I vaguely remember kebabs coming into it somewhere, which is worrying, cos I'm a vegetarian. I actually slept a bit between about one and about four, but then some of the guys on my corridor got back... and now it's six o clock. I've pretty much sobered up.
And I was just about drunk enough to very, very vaguely come out to a couple of my new flatmates. Unfortunately, one of THEM was just about drunk enough to... to share his views on homosexuality and the bible, which... shall we say made for some interesting discussion. It was all very civilised. He was very polite. But we were still both really rather drunk, and really rather in disagreement. And we agreed to have the conversation again sober some time, which in retrospect was probably a bad idea.....
So. I'm going to go back to bed.
Unfortunately, two shots of JD is all it takes to make me forget that you don't go from spirits to lighter stuff. And after that, a pint of cider is the end of sanity.... I have amusingly little memory of the remainder of the evening. I vaguely remember kebabs coming into it somewhere, which is worrying, cos I'm a vegetarian. I actually slept a bit between about one and about four, but then some of the guys on my corridor got back... and now it's six o clock. I've pretty much sobered up.
And I was just about drunk enough to very, very vaguely come out to a couple of my new flatmates. Unfortunately, one of THEM was just about drunk enough to... to share his views on homosexuality and the bible, which... shall we say made for some interesting discussion. It was all very civilised. He was very polite. But we were still both really rather drunk, and really rather in disagreement. And we agreed to have the conversation again sober some time, which in retrospect was probably a bad idea.....
So. I'm going to go back to bed.
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Date: 2003-10-31 11:51 pm (UTC)I'm a vegetarian too, so it's always disturbing when I get the worst sausage cravings when I've been drinking. And I had my own gay moment at dinner when we were talking about homosexuality and I said I would have no problem with dating a bisexual guy, and everyone just went silent and gave me strange looks. They asked how I would feel if he cheated on me with a guy, to which I responded they can't assume he would be more likely to cheat on me just because he was bi. I was then asked how I would feel about him sleeping with guys. I said in his last relationship he may have slept with a guy, but in the current one he would be sleeping with me and if he cheated on me it would be irrelevant whether it was with a guy or girl because I would dump him all the same. If anything, it may be easier to take if it was with a guy because I wouldn't be comparing myself to him in the same way. There's a difference between not being morally against homosexuality and feeling comfortable with it, and some straight people can be so weird about it.
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Date: 2003-11-01 04:53 am (UTC)James has joined an officer training squad, no less, so I suspect he's actually going to make a career out of it. Considering I'm a pacifist and believe killing people is wrong and spending money (tax money, the bastards) on an Army is immoral....
I don't remember if I've posted this anywhere else on this board, but I've always felt that there's worse prejudice against being bi than anything else. People assume you're either greedy or desperate. That whole thing of being more likely to cheat on someone really irritates me.... And while many people are prepared to accept that being gay is just the way someone is, more people tend to assume that bisexuality is a choice. Of course, if I'm bi I can choose never to act on the gay side, just like if I'm a lesbian I can choose not to act on it. But I can't choose whether I fall in love with a girl or a guy. I can't just DECIDE to be straight. I could decide to ACT it (which is basically what my flat mate was saying I should be doing...) but...
The interesting thing was that my flatmate was the other way round from what you're describing, he was comfortable with it, but morally against it, if you see what I mean. I'd never even guessed he was that kind of christian (despite the WWJD bracelet) because I've seen him with (outer than me) gay people in my year, and he's been completely fine with them and even relatively touchy feely.... not one of those backs-up-against-the-wall don't-touch-me-it-might-be-contagious types, just very very quietly the-bible-says-it's-wrong-so-you-probably-shouldn't-do-it. Which I wouldn't mind at all, if I didn't know how much that attitude has screwed over some of my gay and christian (ok, Catholic) friends.
Reliable witnesses have told me it was only a veggie-burger I ate off the kebab stand. So that's ok.
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Date: 2003-11-01 05:41 am (UTC)I actually think it's harder to be bisexual than gay. If I was gay I would have no option because I would be attracted to girls and that's it. I would have no option but to accept who I am. But if I was bi I would think, "Wait a minute, it's not like I'm not attracted to guys. I could have a normal life. Why am I putting myself and my family under this stress?" And especially with me being in education, as a teacher I could never come out. One of my friends works part-time at a private school and she told me about a teacher who "acted" gay in class. A student told his/her parents about it and the principal told the teacher that he either had to stop acting gay or leave. So he quit. The problem with being bi and only dating boys is that it would make things less complicated but not easier. I always be denying that side of myself. On a more positive note, I was talking to my mother about Marriage Protection Week (I seem to be having a lot of talks about homosexuality these days) and she said she supported gay marriage, which I was pleasantly surprised by.
During Marriage Protection Week
I think sexuality is far more complicated then what most people make it out be. For example, I don't think that there's a line between straight and gay and bisexuality being in the middle of that, and that those are the only three things you could ever be. I've been attracted to ten thousand plus guys yet I can count the amount of girls I've been attracted to on one hand. But I don't think that because I could potentially be attracted to a girl makes me leap from being potentially attracted to six rather than three million people. People really do oversimplify things.
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Date: 2003-11-01 06:06 am (UTC)My parents are most definately in support of gay marriage and that, which is nice. I know they'd be supportive if I was out to them... I haven't ever "come out" to them it would just be making too big a deal of it. If I ever had a steady girlfriend I'd take her home and introduce her no problems, and if I was getting serious descrimnation or harrassment for it, I'd ask for their help, but until then - if I brought it up they'd probably think that I had issues with it, and I wouldn't want them to make a big deal of it.
I've always wanted one of those 'nobody knows I'm a lesbian' t-shirts though, cos the extent to which I could wear one round the house and they wouldn't take the hint is quite amusing..... which is nice, cos soooo many people make the assumption the other way. I mean, just cos a girl wears combat boots, loves comic books, watches football and tends to sit with her legs apart.....
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Date: 2003-11-02 04:21 am (UTC)I wish I was more like that, but I am such a girly-girl. Well, I'm not "stupidly" girly. I can go outside without make-up (don't wear it most days) and pick up cockroaches and flush them down the toilet if I really have to. But when it comes down to it I'm the type who'd be more likely to wear a skirt than pants and even when I do wear pants, I usually sit with my legs crossed. This despite having some really masculine interests. Strangely the girly thing has only developed in the last few years when I moved to a rural town in New Zealand where we were expected to act as much like guys as possible. So I think I may have been rebelling against that in the same way children who have very liberal parents often develop quite conservative views. I think grooming is an emotional crutch for me. If I feel not quite ready to face the day I make a bit of an effort and then it's easier. Which isn't to say it's right.
My parents are also quite liberal, but they never really discussed their political views in front of my brother and I when we were younger. My mother's reason for this was because when she was growing up, she always had her parents politics forced on her and wanted us to develop our own opinions on things like religion. But they taught us all the moral stuff like not being racist, sexist, homophobic etc. I think my parents are fine with being gay in theory, but at the same time I don't think they'd like it if either my brother or I came out.
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